Archive for ◊ May, 2009 ◊

Author: Carla
• Monday, May 25th, 2009

Nah, not me! This is part 2 of “House Hunting in the Limousin”.

There’s a lot of older properties for sale here in the Haute Vienne. But with old houses, you get old house problems. There’s the obvious stuff like dodgy wiring, damp, tiny windows, cold in winter, but there’s so much more…………………..

Quirks and fashions. Remember when polystyrene ceiling tiles were all the rage? Then pine cladding? Then heavy flock wallpaper? You’ll find ‘em all here. Let me give you an example.

The French love wallpaper. They love it so much they stick it on doors as well, and then they stick more over the top! A painter decorater friend of mine was working on a house up in the Creuse. He’d been stripping wallpaper off layer after layer. The old lady client arrived to see how work was progressing. She took one look and burst into tears. My firend asked what was wrong, worried that the work he was carrying out was not to her liking. She explained that it was the sight of the wallpaper she had known as a little girl that had made her cry!

Case of the missing fosse (septic tank). We’ve seen old rural properties where all the household waste water, excluding the toilet go straight into the strom ditch by the side of the road. It’s grey water, it stinks and it’s horrible. We have even seen a house where ‘everything’ went straight into the river. There has been a move in France to get everyone up to a standard, but clearing the backlog (Euuugh!!!) is taking some time. Even when there is a fosse, it’s location may be long forgotten. If you are looking at rural properties try asking the viewing agent where the fosse is. Mostly, they won’t know! It’s only after you’ve bought the place and started living in it and using it that you’ll get the smell that will help you find it. In the case of one of our neighbours the access to the fosse was inside the extension! When I say extension I don’t mean some spanking new thing, no, almost as old as the house. Maybe something added 20 years after the original build.

Then there was the rising damp problem caused by modernisation, or how about the endless layers of flea infested old carpet that were stored in the attic to act as insulation. The horror stories go on and on. It’s not always bad, but there are always surprises with old properties. Not a case of beware, more a case of be aware.

Author: Carla
• Friday, May 08th, 2009

Now while we cannot claim to be experts, and we’ve only been in France full-time for just over two years, there’s some things we’ve noticed about house hunters here in the Haute Vienne and what they buy.

We think these are basic mistakes. Maybe they aren’t, but give them your consideration. There’s only three of them….

1. Too much
2. Too old
3. Too remote

Let’s take them one at a time, this time…

Too much…
The old farm, with the outbuildings and barn to convert into gites, with lots of land, it’s cheap, seems too good to be true. But, the old farm has been run down over the years before it went on the market. The farmhouse itself needs major renovation work. Do you know how cold those stone houses can be in the winter? Here’s an example – Our neighbour who lives in such a house, gets through more than 30 cubic metres of firewood each winter. Compare this with another neighbour living in a modern house. They burn 6 cubic metres!

A derelict croft with 3 adjoining barns on 0.37 acres (1 500m²) of land. Restoration project Village location. 65,000€” – there’s loads like this!

The outbuildings and barn that could be converted into gites. It’s a reasonable idea, but unless they’re going to be something really special it’s a flawed one. Why? Well, even in the height of the season in August we see really nice gites standing empty. You can take your pick, so you’d pick something pretty special.

Lots of land. It sounds great, but things grow fast here in the Limousin. It’s not really green for no reason. In the growing season grass grows at an alarming rate. I’d swear you can almost see it grow. Certainly people cut their grass once a week. Trying to keep a couple of paddocks, or a large garden in check is a full-time occupation. If you are here all the time you’re in with a chance, but if not, you’ll need to hire someone to do it for you. We’ve seen couples who come out for a fortnight to work on their renovation. They spend most of their time trying to get the garden back to square one, even beat a path to the front door. Problem is, next visit it’ll be just as bad.

Number 2 next time.